Ukraine FAQ: Donbas 2014-2022 (Russian War)
"For those who argue that some people in Eastern Ukraine wanted to be part of Russia.Some people in New York wanted the USA to be an Islamic state. That doesn't mean we should welcome more 9/11 bombings."
I'm so tired of people online asking “WhaT aBouT UkRainiAns BomGIng DonBaSSS since 2014 CiVilINs” as a reason for Russia murdering hundreds and raping of thousands of civilians in Ukraine in 2022-2023.
The fact that I even need to waste my time writing this shows that Russian propaganda has already won. If you've ever spread this misinformation ask yourself these questions first: (thread)
1. Have you ever been to Donbas or personally know any people anyone from there? (In person, not online) or are you just repeating Russian propaganda you saw online/tv?
Having lived in Ukraine and spending time there since 2016 I personally know a lot of Ukrainians who are from Donbas and had to leave because of the Russia-backed separatists causing an armed conflict there. These are friends that I have been to my home, people I've worked with, and every one I've asked, they said it's complicated, but all 100% agree that if Russia wasn't involved, it wouldn't had been a war.
Yes there was a small Pro-Russian group that formed by themselves, most likely because they were watching Channel 1 Russian TV while is fueled by propaganda. (see #2)
But if it wasn't for the "little green men" masked soldiers of the Russian Federation in unmarked green army uniforms and carrying modern Russian military coming to Donbas and giving training and weapons to the separatists, nothing would had escalated.
2. Have the Pro-Russian people actually been to Kyiv or Lviv since 2014, or did they just fall for fear mongering Russian Propaganda online/tv?
3. If someone living in Ukraine really wanted to live under Russian rule, why wouldn’t they just move to Russia? The borders were open.
4. Why would Ukraine bomb and kill their own civilians and cities? What benefit would they have if any? Isn’t it more likely it was a false flag attack by Russia?
russian bots love one line the most:
“Ukraine committed genocide on russian-speaking people in Donbas.”
But I lived there.
In Stakhanov.
I am from Donbas.
I speak both Ukrainian and russian.
And I saw who brought the real war.
No one was killing russian speakers.
We were living… pic.twitter.com/878e1tHgN4
— Angelica Shalagina🇺🇦 (@angelshalagina) June 13, 2025
5. If Russia didn’t secretly send in their military and weapons to army and train Russian backed separatists in Donbas, and didn’t continue to supply them since 2014, would there be any fighting or civilian casualties in Ukraine?
russian bots love one line the most:
“Ukraine committed genocide on russian-speaking people in Donbas.”
But I lived there.
In Stakhanov.
I am from Donbas.
I speak both Ukrainian and russian.
And I saw who brought the real war.
No one was killing russian speakers.
We were living… pic.twitter.com/878e1tHgN4
6. If Russia didn’t come “save’ Ukraine in 2022, would there be destroyed cities (mostly which are ironically Russian-speaking)
None of them needed saving, and definitely no one there needed Russia to come occupy and destroy their cities. Watch this BBC documentary to see what life was like before and after the Russians came.
7. Are you getting paid by Russia for spreading propaganda, or are you really that ignorant and stupid to have fallen for their tricks? Even if Ukraine isn’t perfect, they’re not the ones who attacked a neighboring country.
8. What about the Minsk Agreements? Russia had no choice to attack Ukraine because the Minsk Agreements weren't upheld.
Ukrainians weren't even allowed to fire back for almost a day because they really wanted the ceasefire to hold. Please Stop falling for Russian propaganda. Russia continues to lie and you cannot trust what they say or agree to.
9. By you bringing up the “WhaT aBouT DonBaSSS since 2014 CiVilINs” "NaTo tHIS" or “What aBouT ZenLiSky being A ComeDian JeW” "AzOV NaZIII" or whatever other argument in 2022, does that cause this war to go longer and more Ukrainians dying, or less.
Johnny FD

Johnny, I heard your latest TLAB podcast and got a heavy, almost depressed vibe while listening. I hope you are doing things you love, are with people you love, and get the help and support you need (if any). All the best to Ukraine too, and not to forget Myanmar where people are fighting a coup regime supplied by Russia.
ReplyDeleteThanks, I appreciate the support. I've been depressed since the war started. But somehow, I feel better now that I'm back in Ukraine.
DeleteGood summary thank you for the article! I also heard the last TLAB episode, and I have to tell you that you are not alone in thinking this invasion is absolute madness, especially here in Europe. Some people get so easily swayed by propaganda but definitely not the majority. And yes, it is crazy how other problems totally incomparable to war crimes still get attention. Anyway, what I am trying to say is that there are a lot of like-minded people who have been donating money to Ukraine, mostly thru Ukrainian donation funds or NGOs.
ReplyDeleteOne more thing from this incoherent train of thought... that, understandably, you want to stop recording TLAB or at least pause it for some time, but I think that part of traveling like a boss is also genuine care about people you meet and live with at places where you stay. It's just my opinion, but I would like to continue listening to your thoughts and maybe about the different side of traveling - helping local people to rebuild what they lost.
Take care and stay strong, and do not give up on all people. Not all of us are idiots:)
Jiri (Prague)
Thanks for the words Jiri, and you're definitely not one of the idiots. =)
DeleteAnyone who starts an article by calling people you don't agree with "idiots" has already lost the argument. johnny you are a curious, flawed character, with few friends, who like you for who you are, who not vulnerable or, who need you to help them....
ReplyDeleteOk Anonymous.
DeleteA good summary but I would go even more aggressively and say that there wouldn't be any conflict in Donbass if not for Russia. Everything was planned and manufactured by Russia in order to destabilise Ukraine and later use it as a justification for a full scale invasion.
ReplyDeleteThe fact that there were pro-russian people in Donetsk and Luhanks doesn't really mean anything and their mere existence can't be considered as a cause of an armed conflict.
Were they not told on TV that in Kyiv "Nazis came to power", where they not told that " 'ukronazis'
will come and ban them from using russian language and USA will steal their land" etc.. why would they ever decide they need to separate/secede. Russian TV is all state-controlled so nothing of it was accidental.
Furthermore, there was a physical presence and a direct involvement of russian 'soldiers' (armed masked man with no uniforms and insignias, yet we know they came from Russia) who captured local administration buildings, incited people to collaborate and join the local militia who they themselves founded.